Back in July of this year I published What’s Inside of the ThingFling $10.00 Mystery Box?. The idea was to sell the items that came in the mystery box on eBay. Every time I see these specials offered, without fail, someone will post “I’ll keep what I want and sell the rest on eBay”. Is life really that simple? Nope! Read on for the boring truth, and a bit of scandal.
The total purchase price including shipping was $38.10. My selling price was considerably less. I received $19.72 in payment, with an additional $44.98 collected for shipping. My eBay fees were $3.63. I forget exactly how much profit I made by overcharging for shipping each item, but $1 for each would be a good estimate. So lets look at the math.
$19.72 + $6.00 (shipping overcharge) = $25.72 (Money received)
$25.72 – $3.63 (eBay fees) = $22.09 Received
So I paid $38.10, received $22.09, leaving me having paid $16.01 for 2 coaxial cables, a DVI Cable, and an HDMI to DVI conversion cable (the unsold junk). Some might claim I got $30 in cables for $16.01, but I don’t see it that way. Cables, remotes, and crappy little accessories that come with major appliances never sell well. Do you want an iPod itself, or some silly skin for it in an ugly color. Everyone wants an HD TV, nobody wants the cable left in the box that you didn’t even need to hook it up. I have an entire filing cabinet of cables I never used.
Scandal! I’ve always been suspicious of eBay as a clearinghouse for crooks. As a first time seller, I expected the worst, and found it. The Gemini Data Sensing cable was a very simple item, a cable with an LED. Someone bought it for $0.99 and I figured end of story. Sure enough, the person contacts me asking my return policy. Telling them I had none as I was very skeptical, I directed them to the manufacturers website for further instructions. Again they contacted me, pestering me with silly questions that no intelligent person would ask.
Their mistake. Nobody wastes that much time unless they are a scammer. I played my hunch and gave them a firm “NO”. Good call. 2 days later another person selling the same exact cable tells me they got the same story from the same buyer. Turns out this scammer was buying $.99 items, then crying about them not working. They had over 1200 items bought and sold, this clearly was a major fraud case since it involved over $1000 in merchandise if you added up all their victims. Pretty crappy little scam. It’s the lamers and scripters that ruin everything.
So I reported it to eBay, as did the other guy. He contacted more people who confirmed our suspicions. I wrote eBay asking what their decision was. They refused to tell me, citing privacy concerns. I checked eBay today and saw the scammer is still buying and selling, with over 1336 total transactions total now. Shame on eBay.
What I learned:
- Never offer refunds. All sales as is.
- Never respond to emails outside of the eBay system, so that eBay has a copy of the correspondence.
- Don’t waste your time selling small accessories with bids. Use “Buy it Now” for items like that.
- Be aware of shipping costs before listing items. Do not let buyers switch payment or shipping method after the sale.
Can you make money on eBay? Yes. Absolutely. But then again, you can also make money buying and selling goods from your own website. A trip to the postoffice cost me 30 minutes in time I think I could have better spent my time elsewhere than the $1 or $2 I made off each sale. The stress of dealing with scammers, including idiots who ask if I would ship to some 3rd world country, when I clearly stated I didn’t, took it’s toll. eBay selling is best left to the pros. Learn fast if you are going to do it at all.
Mystery Box #1
| Item Description/my eBay Link | Estmated eBay Value | Sold For on eBay |
| 2x Emerson lantern flashlights | $11.99 + $8.15 shipping | $1.45 + $8.80 |
| Linksys Antenna Stand | $14.97 + $7.99 shipping | $0.99 + $7.98 |
| FC AM/FM Shower Radio | $4.98 + $4.80 shipping | $5.60 + $5.80 |
Mystery Box #2
| Item Description/my eBay Link | Estimated eBay Value | Sold For on eBay |
| Linksys Dual-Mode Phone | $19.99 + $7.50 shipping | $9.70 + $8.80 |
| Lighted Data Sensing USB Cable | $.99 + $4.95 shipping | $0.99 + $4.80 |
Mystery Box #3
| Item Description/my eBay Link | Estimated eBay Value | Sold For on eBay |
| Philips RG6 Coaxial Cable 3 ft | 2x $6.99 + $4.95 shipping | Never Listed |
| Philips DVI Cable | $9.95 + $6.00 shipping | Unsold |
| Philips HDMI/DVI Cable | $12.99 + $12.99 shipping | Unsold |
| Philips Component Video Cables | $9.99 + $6.35 shipping | $0.99 + $8.80 |
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Interesting post about your experiences about this incident.
The word “ridiculous” comes to mind. Man, I rid myself of these a-hole underlings a long time ago. My friend, read “Blue Ocean Strategy” – the ebay waters are shallow and full of sharks.
ps. Check out Bonanzle.com – they’re down to earth anti-ebay’er auctioneers that keep it all very simple.
Yup, lots of scammers and whiners on eBay. Now the feedback system makes it impossible to warn your fellow sellers. You always have great advice, love dropping in. xoxo
Bonanzle sounds intersting, I’ll give them a look.
I’ve been trying to take more of my business off eBay, but unfortunately no one besides Amazon has the traffic that they have. Including my own website.
There were always sharks on eBay, but more came out after the feedback policy was changed. Now you can’t warn other sellers about a buyer so they get away with murder. eBay wants to be more like Amazon, but there can only be one Amazon.
Ebay becomes less seller- friendly with each passing year. I hear rumors that they want to do away with small time sellers altogether.
My problem is that eBay is VERY seller unfriendly. I had problems two years ago when I got frauded by a buyer and PayPal refunded their money after I showed substantial proof (signature) that the item was received. I had an eBay store at the time and everything and was selling quite a bit. The buyer gave me a negative feedback and everything which was bogus. After that I kind of lost faith in eBay and closed my store. I’d sold things here and there after that and this fall after getting another bad buyer (who I couldn’t leave a negative for), I stopped selling altogether.
I’ll browse occasionally but haven’t bought anything since. I’ve been burnt and I feel that the feedback system and the refund system is unfair.
I recently met with a person that use to be a self proclaimed power seller on ebay. She said that selling on Ebay is a lot like playing poker.
Nice post.
Beamer
That doesn’t sound good. But I think you’re banging your head against the right wall. Bloggers have got to move beyond ads, affiliate programs and paid blogging to discover better business models.
I think a better business model for social media is most likely to be found somewhere in the world of ecommerce and paid advisory services.