Normally I recommend affiliate networks. Today I’m advising you to stay away from one. For 10 months I’ve run ads from Bidvertiser. Rarely on Turnipofpower.com, but always at least one ad on my tech blog Zapyx.com. It took 10 months, but finally I reached the $10 in clicks mark. Over that time I’ve also sent numerous referrals to them, never seeing a penny. Now I see why.
When you refer people to Bidvertiser, you don’t get paid until they earn $10 in profit. Guess what happens once they earn $10 ? Bidvertiser cancels the account! So they save the $10 in referrals, and the $10 they would pay to the affiliate. Nice business model!
Their ads are always scammy, and even when you block all the lower paying ads on their network, you still see .06 clicks. Not once over 10 months did a single click record over 18 cents. I received like 1 click a week from their ad. Guess what happened when I hit the $10 mark?
They schedule a payment 30 days from the end of the month you hit $10 in. So you end up running their crappy ads for another 1-2 months. Then two days before the date arrives, they cancel your account. No specific reason given. Just a form letter saying one of five possible reasons. I’ll quote it below.
We are sorry to inform you that due to a violation of our Terms of Service, we have terminated your account. Reason for termination: Invalid clicks generated by any of the following actions:
1. Clicks generated by the website owner.
Clicking on the BidVertiser ads on your own site, for any reason, is strictly prohibited.2. Asking or encouraging others to click on the BidVertiser ads.
Asking or encouraging others to click on the ads for any reason, either directly or indirectly, is strictly prohibited. Using sentences such as “click the ads to support us”, “visit our sponsors” or “please click the ads” will lead to account termination.3. Displaying the BidVertiser ads in an unrequested pop-up, pop-under or third-party’s frame.
Pages showing the BidVertiser ads may never be loaded in an unrequested pop-up, pop-under, floating HTML item or as an inner frame of a third party. Promoting your website or purchasing traffic from clicks-exchange networks is strictly prohibited.4. Displaying the BidVertiser ads on sites that contain prohibited content.
The BidVertiser ads may not be displayed alongside any type of content prohibited by our program policies, such as adult or mature content, or illegal drugs content.5. Generating automated scripts or any other method solely meant to generate clicks on the BidVertiser ads.
We would kindly ask you to remove any BidVertiser HTML code from your website ASAP.
Please note that we strive to provide our publishers with the most effective revenue program, while delivering the most targeted and qualified traffic to our advertisers. Unfortunately, the clicks generated by your ad fail to follow these standards.”
As you can see, their form letter is ridiculous. I really don’t need their .06 a click, since during the same time period I’ve earned over $225 from Google AdSense. Hmm, $10 vs $255, wonder why I don’t run their junk? In a split test on this blog I showed Google ads to half my visitors, and Bidvertiser ads to the other half. Even though the ads looked similar, almost nobody clicked the Bidvertiser ads.
Since the ads normally run on a tech blog, there is no “encouraging clicks” either directly or indirectly. I don’t talk about advertising there. The content is about computers, not drugs, sex, or gambling. I also have no script to click ads running.
That leaves the following “Promoting your website or purchasing traffic from clicks-exchange networks is strictly prohibited”. Was my account cancelled because I used Entrecard? I hope not.
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36 users commented in " Don’t Waste Your Adspace On Bidvertiser "
Follow-up comment rss or Leave a Trackback **********Ouch. I’ve always just been naturally skeptical of PPC display. I’ve done very very little of it and what I have done has always been Adsense. Mostly I prefer to hand pick aff products for blogs and even for posts and promote those.
Wait until I show you why selling products won’t work either.
thanks for sharing this. Like you I didn’t earn much with bidvertiser. I think bidvertiser is good only for Money Making blogs.
Thanks for the heads up!
I started to display Bidvertiser Ads when I set up my blog, late in january. Didn’t get too many clicks, but the low payout threshold and the ability to cashout through Paypal appealed to me.
At the end of July I reached $10, now I’ll see what happens. I’ll issue an update on my blog in case I get paid or get my account cancelled.
I have Bidvertiser account but I only use it on revenue sharing sites such as Shareapic.Net. I took them off from my blogs since they do not really generate that much income. I’d rather use that space for some other ads.
Do yo have any info on Adbrite?
Do you have any idea why it uses noscript on its ads?
I joined Bidvertiser but never used the ad script on my blog. What you wrote here make me to forget that ad script at all. Thanks for reminding me
I just got paid my $10 and let me tell you, it took forever!! I took them off my feed as well. I don’t make much off them at all. Like you, I make way more off Adsense (not $225 a month though).
Mommie
r1oooo: It uses /noscript in a cheesy attempt to get backlinks, which doesn’t work.
Shaxxx: I keep Adbrite around as an emergency backup but don’t currently use them on any sites. I had a problem with them IP banning me for 3 months, not allowing me to enter my control panel. Then the ban was mysteriously lifted. Other problems with adbrite were porn ads on non porn sites. Adbrite is also affiliated with Alexa, which is the worst web analytics in existance. If I wanted an Adsense type click ad, I’d go with pepperjam first, then adbrite 2nd. But nothing beats the CTR of AdSense.
Mommie, that was $225 in 10 months! These days I make around $30 a month from Google.
I totally agree with you here. I would never waste my adspace on that web site. I had nothing but problems and it never really helped me at all anyways.
I never signed up with Bidvertiser, nor do I plan on it. I have had Adsense from the beginning, and so far I haven’t been doing too bad. After about five months I have paid for my host and domain.
I would hate to make the payout amount in Bidvertiser only to have them cancel my account. So far Google hasn’t done that to me.
Google has been honest. I’ve been paid twice by them. My beef with google had to do with them mysteriously penalizing my pagerank, a penalty which they finally lifted.
I get many clicks on my adsense daily, not all of them count, but I can’t control who comes to my site and clicks my ads. If somebody clicks my ad 50 times, discount the clicks, don’t cancel my account.
First, thanks for the heads up.
I hate scam based companies that simply exist to harm others trying to do legitimate business.
So far I’m mostly just using Project Wonderful and now testing performancing ads for fun. And the only reason I use Project Wonderful is they make it very easy to convert the very small amount of revenue I get directly into ads.
Chris: Project wonderful is interesting, because it lets you run ads on other people’s sites, exactly as I proposed recently for Entrecard. My trick with them is to run paid ads equal to my income from them. I’ve received over 5000 clicks there. Unfortunately, many of the blogs there also click their own ads thinking they are impressing advertisers. I’d rather get 0 clicks and know a campaign is bad, then get 20 clicks and falsely think it has potential.
It’s funny because they were the first that I advertised with and it was so bad and worthless adspace that I dropped them. In the month I had them, I generated about .04 and that was just not good enough for me. Thanks for the heads up on this, I will let others know about it.
thx 4 the heads up on bidvertiser. i placed their ads on my blog once, only to pull them after a 30 day trial. i got very little income. and i figured if i was going to make pennies a day, it might as well come from google.
Personally I’m not fond of bidvertiser or adsense, right now I’m trying out finditquick ads and they seem to be performing well, but they pay $1 per thousand impressions.
I think the ppc model is flawed and much rather go with pay per impression.
I’ve also been using market leverage lately with some success.
I’ll never again use adsense though, for one they banned me, for two they gave me no email or letter stating why, and for three they banned me AFTER I went to their support site to let them know that there might be some click fraud on my site, that I didn’t perpetrate.
That’s what I get for being honest, huh? In one day I got 97 clicks, I let google know and they still ban me. Perhaps they banned me because I was awefully close to the $100 cashout? Heck I bet they have a team of people who commit click fraud when someone reaches $90 just so they won’t have to pay them.
That’s actually a genius plan, unless your slogan of course is ‘Do no evil…’ hmmmmmm…
I knew these guys were a freakin scam. Bidvertiser is gone on my site. Thanks for the post.
I also learned of Bidvertiser’s garbage a couple years back. And they continue to try and bait me with their free “$20″ clicks offer.
Their network is total garbage.
I’ve never used either ad network, but I recently learned of a new free tool that Google has in beta that will encourage more people to use Ad Sense.
It’s Google Ad Planner, and it will enable advertisers to select sites by target market characteristics. This ability is needed by Internet marketers.
I recently wrote a post about it and linked to other posts that take more of a technical approach. I’ve linked to my post above.
Really? Tsk..tsk.. This serves as a warning to everybody. I’m glad I stopped by to read.
I see that a lot of people who get banned from Google use Bidvertiser. On the forum I frequent, I hear about it a lot as a second rate advertising scheme.
I have heard nothing but bad things about Bidvertiser and have only considered signing up because I use entrecard and entrecard views hurt my CTR with Ad Sense.
But yeah, forget about Bidvertiser now!
Thanks for sharing!
Melanie
Melanie: You might want to check out my article about using an adserver. You can show one ad to Entrecard people, and then adsense to everyone else.
Hey Buddy
Sad to say you can throw Adtroll, and that Net Audio ads as straight up rip-offs.After looking at my clicks from Pepperjam I’m starting to be leery of them also.All these companies just leech off what you can make with Google. Plus when you try to get in touch with them don’t hold your breath.I was going to write a post about all these scam ad groups but why bother.No one is paying a blogger what they should be getting.
Nice site
Thanks
Net Audio? I have no relationship with them. If there is an ad for them on my site, it’s by a 3rd party, but I don’t see one. Adtoll I use for placing ads, not for pay per click. I’ve had mixed results with them. At least when I complain about click fraud, they throw the people off the network, which is more than some other networks do. The biggest problem adtoll has is website owner click fraud, not adtoll itself. As for the scam networks, I monitor all my networks closely. By using an adserver, I am able to count both impressions and clicks. I also have plenty of friends I can ask to click an ad, sign up for something or whatever to do a proper test. If their lead, click or sale doesn’t register, I drop the network immediately.
Thanks for the heads up. I used Bidvertiser very briefly and had poor results with them - won’t be trying them again after reading this post.
Thanks for the warning. That crap is getting stripped off my site here in just a minute.
Thanks for the interesting post and comments. I’ve not used Bidvertiser b4 and probably will never will after reading this post.
Networks who close our accounts when we reach payout should be kicked in the n***.
I was this close to running bidvertiser. Lucky I read this post before doing it. Thanks for the informative post
My husband tried it too and it’s performance sucks big time. Only earned $1 after a few months.
I’ve been paid once by them. So lucky me ??!
I think this is the right time for me to totally knock off bidvertiser in my blog, no reason to keep it now. I really don’t know why I keep it on my site for almost a year I only earned 36 cents for 3 sites
I removed their ads and their links from all my old posts as well. As their letter said “remove all links!”
I dont recommend using bidvertiser at all. I sent them over 1 million impressions in a few days, then I stopped it because the CPC was very low.
Now I got banned with no warning or reason and now they are not paying me. I didnt do anything wrong for sure, I do this for a living.
Scammers, I dont think by banning me they will refund their advertisers their money, no they just put the whole sum in their own pocket. Wow.. scam 101.
Not to mention their black hat invisible link in the ad code.
Hi Turnip,
I’ve just came back here to say I was paid by Bidvertiser. You can see the payment proof clicking on my name.
Regards
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